[shrimp_emoji]

Oppressing people over human expression and totally endogenous mental/bodily processes in reaction to those expressions seems a little further down the slippery slope of some dystopic panoptiprison than controlling addictive drugs. If you think porn is on the same order of harm as alcohol, you need to lay off the sauce.

[_8j50]

Who is oppressed? Porn sites? Sex stores and brothels id people. Strip clubs is people and they are regulated already to make sure strippers are treated properly and work in a safe place. Why are you saying porn sites are different or special or why is making content different when it is done online?

As far as slipperlyslope, I suggest you look up the slipperyslope fallacy and why arguing some dire future condition possibly existing isn't an argument against a sepecific and scoped proposal.

> If you think porn is on the same order of harm as alcohol, you need to lay off the sauce.

I have no idea. Both ruin relationships or prevent healthy ones. But alcohol makes you fat, harms your organs and can lead to diabetes in the long term so I would say physically harmful things like alcohol are much more harmful than porn but that is bad whataboutism because even though you are right about alcohol that does not make porn any less harmful.

[omniglottal]

"Validate age" is not the same as "collect and sell identity".

[erenyeager]

Addictive drugs are also only amplifying existing human brain connections. And you can very easily liken porn to an exogenous substance that distorts how sex actually is and promotes fantasy. Measuring harm really depends on the context also. Porn production is often linked with human trafficking and exploitation of disadvantaged people.

[omniglottal]

Some of these things are illegal. Some are legal. When shutting down illegal things, it's a bad idea to target legal things.

[erenyeager]

Porn is illegal for minors

[predictabl3]

"promotes fantasy". Gasp! Dear folks, if you have an honest, open relationship with your partner, and communicate about the kind of fantasy you enjoy, you can in fact achieve "fantasy" as well.

I'm sorry, this is losing the point a bit, but there really is something so telling about the projection behind "fantasy [bad]" and "you might have fantastical thoughts".

Yup, some of it's a bit wild, and I hope everyone has the joy of a partner to safely explore and experience that with, sans judgement.