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by lisasays 1084 days ago
"The so-called victim must have realized that going out dressed like that last night would collide with the interests of young, frustrated males in her vicinity. Who, as she must understand, would surely be unable to control their impulses. And so what happened after that was just the inevitable consequence of her recklessness."
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> victim

We’re talking about the US here, not Ukraine.

Yes, if you are a third-party citizen and observe a woman as well as a group of men who you suspect to be absolutely predatory scumbags, you can make predictions about what might happen.

You know who the "victim" of the current invasion is. It's not the US.

Yes, if you are a third-party citizen and observe ...

This is just spin and narrative to suggest that the war isn't really Putin's fault.

> You know who the "victim" of the current invasion is. It's not the US.

Mhm.

The whole topic here is about how America could/couldn’t have anticipated the invasion. The very comment that you replied to says “The Pentagon should have”… that’s not Ukraine.

Not my problem that you are off-topic.

The whole topic here is about how America could/couldn’t have anticipated the invasion.

The topic here, at least where it started to veer way off course from the original thread, is the essentially pro-Kremlin narrative in the GGGP comment and its GP ("The proxy war started in 2014 with Euromaidan"). In this context - US calculations as such are a red herring. What matters here is the clear (and basically rather crass) implication in these comments of core Western responsibility for Russia's military actions.

Which implication your words definitely seemed to be (if obliquely) echoing and supporting. Or at least playing footsie with, for some reason known only to you.

> Which implication your words definitely seemed to be (if obliquely) echoing and supporting. Or at least playing footsie with, for some reason known only to you.

I’ll note that you can’t even accuse me of doing anything even remotely concrete. “Seemed to.” “If obliquely.” “Playing footsie.” All just accusations of association. Not a leg to stand on at all.

Take your control round over who is batting for the correct team elsewhere.

> US calculations as such are a red herring.

Then just say that. My God. No one cares.

I’ll note that you can’t even accuse me of doing anything even remotely concrete.

Probably because you're throwing up such an ink cloud that it's difficult to what point you're trying to make, let along for which "team".