[mzitelli]

To clarify, he was convicted after organizing an official event with ambassadors from various countries to claiming the Brazilian electoral system was fraudulent. This discourse was usual throughout his term. He repeatedly claimed to have evidence, but never presented any. We now know that there was a plot for a coup [1], which failed to materialize due to a lack of support from a section of the military. Even though the superior courts have a political nature, Bolsonaro went against the law in an attempt to overtake the political system. The same way a murder trial is a crime, a coup trial also is. Today is a big day for Brazilian democracy!

[1] - https://www.correiobraziliense.com.br/politica/2023/01/50659...

[matheusmoreira]

So what if he did? How the hell is that a crime? "Abuse of political power"? What a joke. Completely made up nonsense. Out of all the questionable dumb shit he said during the pandemic, this is what he goes down for? It's obvious they just wanted to destroy the guy and everything he represents.

Remember what the TSE judge-king said? The voting machines are "unquestionable". It's trivial to raise reasonable doubt against such standards of perfection if you bother to look. The military audit for one said the voting machine software's makefile would download unaudited libraries off the network and link them to the final binary. It's fruitless to try to convince laymen who barely understand what source code even is of the importance of that fact but I'm sure anyone here on HN will appreciate the potential for a supply chain attack on the voting machines. You know, the very same type of attack people submit blog posts here on HN about every few months, same attack vector that compromises developers of big tech corporations. Faced with such criticism, they should have released the signed binaries that ran on election day so we could reverse engineer them. Instead, they grepped the report for the words "there was fraud", didn't find it and censored everything as "fake news". Literal censorship. You call this a democracy?

You apparently forgot all about the relentless, nearly unilateral censorship campaign against Bolsonaro in the months leading up to the elections. Lula defends abortion but it's fake news to claim he did. Lula is friends with communist dictators but it's fake news to say he is. Lula is a socialist himself but it's fake news to say he is. Lula was condemned by multiple judges for corruption but it's fake news to say he was. Only yesterday he went to his communist forum and openly said he's proud to be called communist. I just saw news that there will be "military exercises" with the countries of Lula's dictator friends, hell he welcomed the Venezuelan dictator on our soil.

You call this a democracy? These supreme court judges are openly biased and they think nothing of blatantly unconstitutional political censorship. Who are you supposed to turn to when your supreme court judges start openly shitting on the constitution? I'm supposed to believe my country even has laws after witnessing that? Whatever bullshit the judge-kings write on their paper is law.

I'm not convincend this coup nonsense is anything but smoke and mirrors. Actually I wish these people had the balls to attempt it. Given the entire justice system turned into this circus, only the military could possibly bring order to this mess. As far as I'm concerned, the judiciary planned and executed their own coup, they practically named Lula president. Even you admit it yourself: "Even though the superior courts have a political nature".

Big day for brazilian democracy? We aren't one. It's a judiciary dictatorship. They're working to censor Bolsonaro friendly radio stations right now. Ever seen a democracy do that?

[semilattice]

>It's a judiciary dictatorship. They're working to censor Bolsonaro friendly radio stations right now. Ever seen a democracy do that

Selective outrage judiciary system is a hallmark of Tier-3 dictatorship.

That means that government's law enforcement, spy agencies, and other instruments directed at combating criminal activities inside the country or unfriendly regimes -- are now turned to be used against political opposition.

Selective outrage judicial system, obviusly means that justice is not blind. That, in turn means -- the justice is lost.

Tier 2 dictatorship -- will be legislative changes curbing dissent (in both elections into legislative bodies and the laws themselves around elections, financial instruments, etc).

Tier 1 -- will be constitution changes solidifying the extended rule of one or several individuals for unlimited amount of years.

[matheusmoreira]

Tier 2 has already been implemented, just ask Google what happened when it tried to campaign against "fake news" censorship. They hit them with bullshit like "abuse of market power" just like Bolsonaro. Same judge-kings involved in the Bolsonaro trial ordered Google to censor a post on its own website.

I'm seeing subtle tier 1 shades as well. Lula and his people used official government social media accounts to celebrate Bolsonaro's fate. That's prohibited because it implies they are the government but they did it anyway.

[fikod]

Nowadays, HN full of leftists from reddit. It's become Orange Reddit.

Your post will fall on deaf ears. As leftists, they hate Bolsonaro and love Lula. So they'll cheer this on. Simple as that.

Same way they loved Chavez before he destroyed Venezuela.