[ok123456]

> Simpler configuration

Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client.

> simpler administration

IRC is just a ban list, an except list and an invite list.

> user accounts and profile pictures by default

Don't want it.

> persistent chat history

Liability.

[saulrh]

> IRC is just a ban list, an except list and an invite list.

Now use that to implement RBAC for a server with a hundred channels.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

Less pithily, IRC's built-in permissions may be simple, but they're so simple primarily because they're basically useless for real moderation tasks. Every IRC channel I've ever seen handles moderation with a mod-bot, and "set up a bot" instantly blows the complexity budget.

[ok123456]

> Now use that to implement RBAC for a server with a hundred channels.

Don't want it.

[Filligree]

> Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client.

Which destroyed several channels through spam. The authentication is a feature.

[ok123456]

You can do authentication without something that's tantamount to someone's government ID. I love when companies make me give them my phone number, and then they get hacked.

[doublerabbit]

> user accounts and profile pictures by default: Don't want it.

You may not, but many others do, like myself.

Lets be frank, IRC is boring without content. There is no easy way to share any imagery, videos. Any form of simplification of media hosting is a tragic mess.

> Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client.

NickServ.

"If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous".

I've been on networks where mIRC has been banned which is my client of choice.

[ok123456]

> no easy way to share any imagery.

You share it the same way you share it on r*ddit. Upload it to imgur, imbb or whatever.

> NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous".

It's telling you exactly what you need to do. If you don't like having services, don't use a server that has services.

> "You can't use BitchX on this network" I've been on networks where mIRC has been banned.

You're free to make your client respond however you like.

> IRC is boring

IRC is just a tool. If IRC is boring, it's a reflection of you and your friends.

[doublerabbit]

> You share it the same way you share it on r*ddit. Upload it to imgur, imbb or whatever.

I can drag and drop with Discord, Slack and Teams. And look its there!

No one wants to click links. I updated my post, but to send any type of media is a tragic-mess for IRC. Including if its hosted on my own domain as my own nick!

> It's telling you exactly what you need to do. If you don't like having services, don't use a server that has services.

Right, sure.

> You can't use BitchX on this network" I've been on networks where mIRC has been banned. You're free to make your client respond how

And to a user who wants to join and connect, I don't have time to do that anymore. That it self is tech-savy stuff. Not so easy for the average user. It's not common, but networks have implemented.

> IRC is just a tool. If IRC is boring, it's a reflection of you and your friends.

IRC is a protocol, the client is the tool to connecting to the network. IRC as a whole provides the services to communicate and if no one is communicating as like "your not 1337 because your not using a znc bouncer with irssi"

Or those folk who already know each other in channel and don't want to reach out to new folk even introduce newbies to the channel.. you don't have a voice.

Or just a channel with a topic that's not been changed since 2017.

I -really- dislike Discord, it sucks. However at least it's easy and tacky enough to allow you to introduce yourself rather than black text on a white background. It allows you to enjoy media, show off stuff.

And up until recently could use any nick even if had been taken.

If you want to host your own channel on IRC you need to understand cryptic flags, Host a bot. Know how to operate chanserv.

YIM, MSN Messenger and all those services had it right, games, media and voice.

[smolder]

> No one wants to click links.

I actually prefer that my chat client doesn't auto follow links, so I have a choice of whether to look at them, and so they don't interrupt conversations by taking up huge space in the chat.

[progval]

> NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous".

Are you sure it was prompting you to register rather than to authenticate? It sounds like you were using a nick someone else registered, but you can usually use unregistered nicks freely.

[doublerabbit]

Some Channels enforce the flag for registered users.

I've visited networks where you have forced you to register nicks. You have the option to leave, but same principle.

[tredre3]

Some channels do indeed enforce registered users. But the message you quoted is 100% because you were using someone's nickname and they enabled nick protection.

[doublerabbit]

No. My nick was an unregistered nick. I know IRC -.- don't tell me otherwise.

"To use this server you MUST register with IRC services."

The server had mandatory nickserv registration.