[gbraad]

You paint a very weird picture of the engineers they pay to work on Gnome, the kernel, or the hundreds of other libraries used.

What more should they do?

Also note, Red Hat pays engineers for the extended support, the compliance https://access.redhat.com/articles/2918071, etc that customers expect from RH. Engineers contribute both upstream (first) and backport those changes to older releases.

[coldtea]

>You paint a very weird picture of the engineers they pay to work on Gnome, the kernel, or the hundreds of other libraries used.

They're paid to work on FOSS projects. Gnome isn't a RedHat project. Nor is the kernel. And they're IBM projects even less.

And most of those projects started without RedHat and RedHat stepped on them to become what it is first. Plus, there are thousands of essential projects they don't have anything to do with, still in the distro.

[bonzini]

> Gnome isn't a RedHat project. Nor is the kernel.

Because Red Hat wants to work with the community, it doesn't just start projects and slap a CLA on top of it.

https://redhatofficial.github.io/ is only a small part of what Red Hat has contributed to.

[gbraad]

You avoid answering: "What more should they (Red Hat) do?"

[coldtea]

Don't be a dick to Centos - and anybody picking that torch.