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by tootie 1088 days ago
What an odd take. Are you saying that professional journalism literally doesn't exist? That Joe Rogan is the same thing as James Risen? Admittedly plenty of people call themselves professional journalists that are frauds like all the folks at FOX or OAN who have been caught dead to rights lying to pander to their audiences. Or Rogan's guests like RFK and Alex Jones who only come on his show to promote their personal interests push their own utterly deceitful agendas.

But there are a great many serious people who take pride in speaking the truth and exposing reality that people don't want to hear. It's beyond cynical to think that every single one of them is fake.
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the6thwonder 1087 days ago
> Are you saying that professional journalism literally doesn't exist

Seriousness and truthfulness are separate axis. Serious branding gives the appearance of authority.

> frauds like all the folks at FOX

You will find they have similar credentials as the outlets you enjoy. In fact, they probably used to work there.

> every single one of them is fake.

It's not they they are fake. It's that nobody has a monopoly on truth or methods of finding it.

Can journalists provide valuable information? Certainly. But they have their own systematic and personal biased. In particular, they are an extremely tight knit community performing for their peers.

Joe's podcast is obviously goofy as can be. But I actually prefer being explicit about your biases, instead of faux objectivity.

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tootie 1087 days ago
"It's not they they are fake. It's that nobody has a monopoly on truth or methods of finding it."

That's moving the goal posts into the parking lot. Joe Rogan and James Risen (as an example) are both fallible human beings capable of bias and errors, but one of them is 1000X better at eliciting and distributing truth than the other. And it's not by dint of their relative credentials, it's because one of them is smarter, more dedicated, more moral, has studied their craft, worked at it for decades, puts in hours of legwork, has the courage to risk their personal safety for the good of the reading public and the other is a drug-addled meathead who is interested in making money. Not that you're not allowed to enjoy his show, but it's purely entertainment and if you learn anything that happens to be true it's purely by coincidence.

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the6thwonder 1087 days ago
It sounds like you have made up your mind. So I don't have anything to add.
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