[caseymarquis]

Comparing a JavaScript ORM to a C# ORM like Entity Framework feels like comparing C macros to Lisp macros.

You can't really have a reasonable conversation about ORMs without defining the feature set your ORM has. If an ORM doesn't apply type safety to SQL queries and translate typed code expressions to equivalent SQL expressions, it's not performing two of the key functions I associate with ORMs. If I didn't take these features for granted, I would probably question how useful ORMs are too!

I think the reason it's so hard to have a conversation about ORMs in general is that we're often lumping radically different systems together and then making a blanket judgement. Again, it's like working with C macros, getting annoyed with them, and then judging all macro systems to be bad.