[jongjong]

That's usually a good comeback since people who don't like something tend to avoid using the thing but because of the way the tech industry works, it's not possible to avoid the tools so I actually became an expert at them even though I hate them. I use some of these tools daily and have been using them for years to the point that I'm basically an expert at them. They suck. They're over-engineered (introduce more problems than they solve), have too many dependencies, slow down development speed, etc...

Anyway, these days I know to shut my mouth and cash my cheques... Software development work pays by the hour after all.

[Idiot_in_Vain]

Of course everyone is free to have their own opinion, but for good reasons the opinions of the people who create new ORMs, frameworks, languages, OSs, lead big complex projects at big corp are generally valued more that the opinions of those who see dev work as nothing more than a way to make a buck.

And yes ORMs and other tools used in software industry often look over engineered if one doesn't want to understand in depth the problems they are solving, but wants to quickly solve a business problem.