[joshka]

>The idea that people might spend 2 months learning rust and become as productive in other languages is frankly unbelievable to me.

Upvoted even though I anecdotally disagree with your perspective based on personal experience. I wrote my first line of rust in March this year (just as a hobby), and now am one of the maintainers of a popular TUI framework (Ratatui). I feel just as productive or more than any of the previous languages I've written code in (over the last 30 something years).

[pcthrowaway]

Interesting. I've been learning/using rust for work for the last 3 months.

I'm at the point now where I'm productive (took me over a month to even get to that point), but I still feel incredibly slow compared to Typescript. The compilation time doesn't help.

Anyway, thanks for the perspective.

I'm still skeptical that the survey reflects honest feedback given Google's culture, but perhaps I'm just biased from how long it's been taking myself and the rest of the team to achieve a higher level of productivity

[joshka]

Probably one of the biggest speed ups to your inner loop writing / running code is to use something like https://github.com/Canop/bacon/. I used a combination of the docs and GPT chats to increase my learning speed a lot.