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by donw 6420 days ago
Um, if you were happy with Windows before, why did you switch in the first place?

One of the biggest things that keeps me from using a Windows machine, is the lack of a proper shell. One that exists as a first-class citizen, and not as some bastard add-on hack. Cygwin really doesn't cut it for me, and the only other real option is to run VMWare, at which point I might as well run Ubuntu.
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davejohnson 6420 days ago
I mentioned in there the main factor is price. The MacBook seemed like a great deal compared to similar dells at the time. Today the prices are reversed :S

I ran VMWare on the MacBook but it was way too slow.

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iamelgringo 6420 days ago
If you're interested in a decent shell on Win, you should check out PowerShell. I develop Python/Djanog on XP, and I live in PowerShell and iPython.
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wizlb 6420 days ago
What do you need a terminal for in Windows?

I'm not being snarky, it's a serious question. I'm a programmer, but I use Visual Studio 2008 and I rarely have to touch a command line to do anything that I need to do...

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breily 6420 days ago
I've never done any serious development on Windows, but I'd imagine you need/want a shell for the same reasons you'd use one on a unix system - using vim, scripting, an array of useful programs (e.g. whatever the Windows version of grep is), etc.
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wizlb 6420 days ago
I've been programming on Windows for about 10 years and I can honestly say that I simply don't have to use a terminal outside of running the occasional command. For automation I use AutoHotKey or AutoIt. For searching text in files I usually use a program like Notepad++ or UltrEdit. YMMV of course, not everyone's the same.

I guess the reason is that I can usually find a GUI program to do whatever it is that I want.

I use Linux all the time too (I've built Asterisk boxes, LAMP servers, firewalls, etc. at work and at home), but I think the culture is just different, so it's natural to use the terminal for many things on *nix.

Actually I do use the Windows terminal a LOT (the Run box actually) for one-off things like "net start/stop some-service", "services.msc" or "ipconfig /all", something like that.

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