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by pietroppeter
1094 days ago
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> The answer probably lies in non-technical things, like marketing, community building and governance. > The language not having one clear thing it excels at, surely makes marketing it more difficult, so Nim would have needed more effort than normal to properly explain its philosophy to the market. Agree on both points! And I am starting to realize that governance is the key element. A better governance would enable better community building and with a big community and a decent governance someone good enough at marketing would be able to figure out a way to put in the additional effort. But hey guys, where can you find a tech community in which we are all pretty bad at marketing and very bad at evangelizing? I think it is a nice value proposition for those who like to build stuff… ;) I think contributors should focus first on building compelling cases of using Nim in specific niches (like jmgomez is doing for unreal engine) and we should at some point try to meet and start working on the governance issues. It will take some time but I am still confident. The language is such a joy and the community - albeit small - is full of outstanding people. Btw, you have done outstanding work on zig, congratulations to you, Andrew and the rest of the community, it is inspiring to see! I find very interesting how you decentralize community management empowering people to build their own communities. At least that is what I gather from following from far, I might be off. Would love to know more if that was an explicit goal or the result of some happy coincidences. |
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Thanks! Having the communities be decentralized was a deliberate decision from early on. Andrew wanted to go in that direction and to me made perfect sense so we never even stopped to talk about it much.
In practice there are two simple considerations that make it a no brainer for us:
- eventually your communities will be decentralized / independent whether you like it or not (eg today there are plenty of python sub-communities depending on whether you use python for webdev, data science, devops, etc)
- a central community hub means that you need to spend money and communication budget on a team of moderators. given how the ZSF financial strategy, we have to stay small if we want to succeed, so that means giving up things like having a moderation team.