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by happertiger 1090 days ago
For the uninitiated… Cory Doctorow laid it out in a fantastic post that’s become legend rather quickly.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

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Generally great post, but did he say Gmail was a Hotmail clone? Really? Did Cory get too old to remember things or is his anti corporate paranoia that bad?

I still remember the gmail announcement: it was on April 1st and near everyone just thought it was an April fools joke that they promised a GB of space when Hotmail gave 5 MB. And their conversation UI, no delete button, labels: they innovated on every single aspect of how you could do email. Oh did I forget to mention it was the first true web application that was mass market end user focused? And did a killer job at it too?

At one point Google was a true innovators company. Failing to acknowledge that shows Cory’s own biases and continues to relegate him to one loud corner of the internet. We get it Cory, you loooove GNU. Doesn’t mean you can’t objective about other things.

craigslist is one of the few sites that has stayed the same and is still serving its users. The owner got kinda rich with it, but refuses to do anything more to the site. It's amazing.
Not true, Craigslist changes constantly.

The most annoying new “feature” is that every for sale search on my local CL also returns “more from nearby areas” results from New York, which is hundreds of miles away.

Depends what you use it for. Searching estate sales for shippable small stuff, fine. Shopping for cars or romance not so much.

The problem is the meaning of distance is relative by culture. 250 miles is nearby in American west. Some people drive that far for groceries, a date, work even. Without leaving the county.

Meanwhile from say [checks map] Springfield Massachusetts, same 250 miles spans eight states. Half of which hate each other.

Now try buying a car on Craigslist in Hawaii, where half the listings are on the wrong islands. Part of this is CL's fault and part is the spammers mislabeling location (which is also CL's fault, indirectly).

In the parts of UK or EU where people don't have cars, search radius of 250 miles is worse than useless. Some people don't travel that far their entire lives, unless there's a war on. It makes the whole site feel like buggy American crap.

>250 miles is nearby in American west.

californian: it is not. that's a 3-4 hour drive and can get you from Los Angeles to Las Vegas. If I'm driving that far to meet someone, it better be some crazy rare item that can't be shipped, not for groceries.

Even as someone raised in the rual parts of California, the nearest walmart was "only" 40 miles away or so in the 90's.

250 miles is a lot anywhere, even in the American West.