[Pulcinella]

First they came for the spam emails, and I did not speak out because I was not a spammer.

Then they came for the crypto crap, and I did not speak out because I didn’t want that crap.

Then they came for the NFTs, and I did not speak out because I was not an NFT bro.

Then they came for the weekly trash pickup, and I said thank you.

[Spivak]

People really like to use the slippery slope argument to mean "I took the most expansive interpretation of what someone did throwing away all context and came up with the worst possible thing they could do with that."

[evandale]

That's because if a bad actor was given the opportunity to make a lot of money doing the worst possible thing they could do with something someone will do that thing eventually 100% of the time, no exceptions. This isn't even an "Only siths deal in absolutes" scenario either.

There are plenty of people in the world who will do anything in this world for money, power, wealth, and control over people and they don't care who they hurt in the process of achieving that goal.

[vkou]

And? A bad actor that has power by fiat over you doesn't need a slippery slope to do bad things, they can just go and do them.

Case in point - Reddit's enshittification. Spez has decided that Reddit will now be a walled garden, and all you can do is take it or leave it.

Slippery slope arguments provide exactly zero guidance for as to when it is reasonable to stop going down the slope, which is what makes them utterly useless.

[evandale]

I replied to this comment and I'm sufficiently happy with my explanation. What's disagreeable about my statement in the context of answering the parent's question?

> People really like to use the slippery slope argument to mean "I took the most expansive interpretation of what someone did throwing away all context and came up with the worst possible thing they could do with that."

[scrps]

The point where you don't go down the slope is when you recognize it and you don't know what is at the end of it's long tail. The guidance is built in.

[vkou]

"We can't have police, this will lead to a slippery slope that will lead to a 1984 police state."

"We can't not have police, this will lead to a slippery slope that will lead to Mad Max anarchy and roaming bands of killers and warlords riding in really awesome-looking semis."

That's the entire problem with the slippery slope! Two entirely conflicting, equally compelling arguments can be construed with it, starting from the same simple question - "Should there be police? Yes/No?"

Just because the bottom of a slippery slope looks awful, or can't be seen isn't a reason to do, or not do something - because I can construct a million awful slippery slopes for any action you do, or not do.

A slippery slope argument eliminates all nuance from a question, and provides no guidance for answering it well. That's exactly what makes it a logical fallacy.

[evandale]

> Just because the bottom of a slippery slope looks awful, or can't be seen isn't a reason to do, or not do something - because I can construct a million awful slippery slopes for any action you do, or not do.

Who said anything about using a slippery slope for the _only_ justification to do or not do anything?

You said "Slippery slope arguments provide exactly zero guidance for as to when it is reasonable to stop going down the slope, which is what makes them utterly useless" and I disagree that they're utterly useless. Sure, it doesn't provide guidance. Why does it need to? As you go down the slippery slope you learn about the possibilities you should consider. You also learn about the possibilities you can ignore. It's a risk assessment tool and it's incredibly useful.

I'm not sure how you can deny that putting all the chips on the table, thinking about, and debating all the possibilities has no benefit when you're assessing an idea or an action to take. There's nothing wrong with _considering_ possibilities and going down the slippery slope. It's often a very useful exercise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats

[scrps]

"We can't have police, this will lead to a slippery slope that will lead to a 1984 police state."

Have you looked at the state of the bloody world? I measure outputs not methods.