[pjerem]

> and the ability to push out fixes and changes instantly mattered more than all the other features combined.

It mattered for developers. Users couldn’t care less.

While I do agree that back in the day, we missed standardized update systems, we do have them now (Flatpack, Winget, the stores …) and they could have appeared sooner if the industry did not plunge entirely in this web thing.

Sure the old days were not perfect but we are now in such an extreme opposite that your computer doesn’t even compute anything except a browser engine.

[mike_hearn]

I agree that it's gone from one extreme to the other and this isn't really healthy, hence our work on Conveyor, trying to find a nice middle ground for non-web apps.

I think users do appreciate fast iteration. If they report a bug in the morning and it's fixed by the afternoon, that feels very different to reporting a bug and being told it'll get fixed in the next version which ships in 2 months. Even very basic and subtle differences between web and non-web apps matter here, for example, the lack of version numbers, the precise control over caching policy, the refresh button all make big differences to the overall feel of things.