[techperson20007]

Ahh yes. The bi-monthly shit on ops comment threads.

Ops folks can barely reverse a string. We should not exist as a field. Every company regardless of scale should just use 4 manually provisioned EC2 instances. If that doesn’t work your code is shit and you aren’t using Elixir / Phoenix! Anyone even attempting to use Kubernetes should be branded with the Hetzner logo and forced to work at McDonalds.

Fear not HN. McDonalds here I come.

[matsemann]

That's a lot of straw people.. There are lots of valid criticism, dismissing all of that is arrogant and counter productive.

[slyall]

The largest thread here is people saying "deploying mostly meant getting my jar file or whatever running on some ec2 instance" and talking about manually setting up ec2 instances and each team somehow copying them into production.

Just last week there was a thread about a company with 250 Petabytes in s3 and every comment from a developer was how it should be moved in-house. People were linking to one piece of s3-compatible software that the only example of a live deploy was single-digit gigabytes.

[deterministic]

Mostly justified in my experience. In my experience, every time an “ops” team gets involved, complexity and cost goes up, with zero or negative benefits.

Your experience might be different of course, but that doesn’t invalidate the negative experiences of others.