[htag]

> It seems that tracking the genetic mutations would provide an approximation of the computing complexity needed.

How are those two even approximately related?

1. If you want to know about the amount of information inside of our genome then you can just look at the genome directly. You don't need to count the number of mutations.

2. A genetic mutation isn't a computation. It's a random event.

3. Why did you choose a 500,000BC goalpost for anything? Which 500,000 genome do you want to look at? Almost all of them are not-conscious

4. There's no reason to assume biological evolution is an efficient method of manifesting consciousness.

5. Is a genome enough for consciousness? I would argue we would be less conscious without language, which exists outside of our genome.

[hackinthebochs]

>How are those two even approximately related?

Computation is roughly equivalent to iterating over a space of possibilities and selecting the subset that satisfy some evaluative function. To determine the inverse of a matrix, I can take the rough shape of the outcome and iterate over all possibilities, picking out the ones that multiply to the identity matrix. Evolution is the process of randomly testing variations in organisms to select the subset that satisfy the objective of superior fitness. So in a sense, evolution "computes" the blueprint for organisms that maximize fitness. The computational complexity of a given genome is then some function of the size of the species-wide population of each ancestor generation summed, with massive time and space constants.

[detourdog]

1. Each generation was a branch based on the reaction not necessarily a genetic mutation as we understand them.

2. I'm not sure if that is what I said but I believe that. * I did state it but I plead sloppy articulation rathe than believe each branch is a genetic mutation(an increment smaller than a mutation).

3. I figured it was far enough away to be a valid timeframe for sophisticated consciousness but not so close that the thread would be distracted by historical interpretations.

4.Something manifested consciousness and my thinking it based on some sort of survival reward system.

5.A genome maybe too much for a consciousness.