[dave4420]

Personally, if this was a coup, I’d say Wagner would have taken control of important infrastructure by now (e.g. the Kremlin, state tv, military depots, Putin / defence minister). Or been killed/arrested himself.

This feels more like a civil war. It might not last long of course. We’ll see.

[jcrites]

Wagner Group [1] is a mercenary company, by the way, named after German composer Richard Wagner [1]. Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin [2] is reportedly the founder and owner.

(Wagner is not a person. Or am I misreading: who does "himself" refer to?)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wagner

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Prigozhin

[r721]

>Wagner is not a person

>He is alleged to have founded the Wagner Group, with his own call-sign reportedly being Wagner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Utkin

[dave4420]

Yes, I’m being sloppy because I’m on my phone and can’t be bothered editing.

[hutzlibu]

I think it reads fine, as in Kremlin did this and that and Wagner did this and that. Wagner just stands for the group.

[jcrites]

I'm responding to the use of the pronoun "himself":

> Personally, if this was a coup, I’d say Wagner would have taken control of important infrastructure by now ... Or been killed/arrested himself.

To anyone who isn't familiar with Wagner Group, that seems to be describing Wagner as an individual person who can be "killed or arrested himself".

[hutzlibu]

Ah yes, that is wrong, but I think people who are into russian geopolitics (like me) autocorrected it and had the meaning of the person arrested automatically transfered to Prigoshin as head of Wagner.