[dangus]

1. On-site

Are the best developer candidates looking for on-site roles? I don’t know any that prefer an office setting.

2. Whiteboards

Yet another way to test developers on stuff that is unrelated to the work. I don’t even like writing with my hands all that much because I’m on a keyboard all day.

I get into a whiteboard and I am being tested on writing skills, how visual my thought process is, how my handwriting is, how comfortable I am in a public speaking position…all great qualities, but all entirely unrelated to programming in a team.

Is whiteboarding even a realistic exercise in typical multi-office or remote companies? If I’m presenting to coworkers I’m probably on zoom in my development tools right? That’s not a whiteboard.

[torton]

- writing skills - visualization / explanation skills - speaking to a small group of peers

all of these are _highly_ relevant to programming in a team beyond the senior level

[janosdebugs]

Visualization maybe, but writing by hand? Until recently (when I started working on an art-related project) writing by hand alone took more concentration than solving actual tasks, not to mention writing in a fashion so someone can read it. I simply didn't write by hand for the last 15+ years.

[yieldcrv]

after many unceremonious rejections, the first company that wanted an optional onsite interview hired me, after I went onsite.

so, people want to hire me when they meet me in person, and I can give more inputs of rapport. data point of 1.