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by DigitalSea 1096 days ago
A submarine made out of carbon fibre material built by a company that openly bragged about using off the shelf components to reduce costs, refused to hire domain experts and fired its director of marine operations for voicing concerns over safety, cutting corners? Say it ain't so. Despite James Cameron being known for his films, people forget he's been actively involved in the development of deep sea submersibles. He's been to the Titanic wreckage site more times than most. Paul-Henri Nargeolet who tragically died on this experimental sub has made 35 trips, Cameron has made 33.

It's not even an accusation at this point, it's the truth. And Cameron is more knowledgeable about this subject than most. The reality is deep sea submersible technology is still an underdeveloped field, evident by the fact few vessels exist that can take humans to such depths and even unmanned vehicles are far few and between.

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Oceangate's 2019 blog post Why Isn't Titan Classed (now only available in internet caches), is a stunning display of either deeply flawed logical thinking or a willful attempt to confuse people. The post basically says, (1) the "vast majority of marine (and aviation) accidents are the result of operator error, not mechanical failure", and (2) the vehicle classification guidelines are too stringent and stymie innovation.

A rationale person might interpret that as: (1) mechanical-related incidents are very infrequent as a percentage of total incidents, because (2) vehicle guidelines successfully minimize rates of mechanical failure, such that remaining incidents are generally operational in nature.

Oceangate ignores this implication and bluffs its way from pointing out that most incidents are operational in nature (for a sample set of largely mechanically certified crafts) to implying that a focus on operational safety is a reasonable way to minimize total risk (for an uncertified craft).

ref: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Y_6Rrx...

Boeing cut costs too, they bounced right back. That's the real lesson - you can absolutely get away with cutting corners, firing people who voice concerns, and then kill people. Just wait till the next news cycle and everyone forgets.
Boeing, a global leader for both sales and innovation in an industry that drives the modern world. Oceangate, a rebel "innovator" in a niche market for niche customers

also, the corollary why nobody has died on a voyage to Mars yet