[redroyal]

I’m not a fan. Thinkpads have had magnesium enclosures since 2000. I don’t like the framework design or philosophy. You’d have to be insane to buy an Intel laptop for the same money as an ARM Macbook. This reusable thing doesn’t make a bit of sense to me either. Do you really want to be using a 10 year old chassis with new parts? What’s the point of trying to save the environment when the other 8 billion could care less?

[stepbeek]

Unless you don’t want a Mac? I like my Mac, but prefer Linux for dev. Having a beefy AMD framework 16” that I can refresh in 3 years sounds great to me.

> What’s the point of trying to save the environment when the other 8 billion could care less?

“What’s the point in doing things you personally care about if there isn’t worldwide consensus?”

[gobip]

Hopefully soon, linux will be running just fine on the Apple Silicon.

[LoganDark]

Hasn't it been running just fine for years already? Linus Torvalds uses Asahi. Sounds fine enough for me.

[gobip]

No webcam, mic or internal speakers as far as I know?

[nulld3v]

> This reusable thing doesn’t make a bit of sense to me either. Do you really want to be using a 10 year old chassis with new parts?

The chassis is replacable. You simply order a new chassis, pop the main board out of the old chassis and put it into the new one.

> What’s the point of trying to save the environment when the other 8 billion could care less?

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[november84]

If the parts are made to fit the chaos and the design is reusable, what does it matter of the chaos is old?...unless say it's greatly worn and the integrity is impacted....but then you can buy a replacement part.

Their pricing on the 13 is fair for the components they offer. I'm not in the market for a new laptop, still rocking a 2015 mbp...but if I need a new one, I hope they're still around.

[rcMgD2BwE72F]

>What’s the point of trying to save the environment when the other 8 billion could care less?

Because these other 8 billion think just like you. More and more people don't think like that anymore, and they miss you.

To get out of that gridlock, don't wait (because you aren't stuck in traffic: you're traffic).

[redroyal]

Come on they’re dumping metric tons of industrial waste into the oceans every day but here we are sorting cans from cardboard. It’s just virtue signaling. It’s totally meaningless.

That it’s now law is just a mind game. They get you to habitually say yes to a series of nonsense tasks and arbitrary rules so later you don’t question when they march your children off to a pointless war

[cassepipe]

Because my two previous laptops were still working fine when their plastic body started to crack and it was heartbreaking to have to toss them away. I managed to changed the plastic body of the second one but the the keyboard broke, then the battery, then the HDD. Now the motherboard has died on me. It was all for nothing. It was a pain to dissassemble each time, fearing to lose screws and to break the old plastics.

I don't know about the rest of the world but for people like me who care about their stuff to be sturdy/long-lasting/repairable, who feel responsible of what they buy and to stop littering the world with trash, I don't how Framework could have done better. I have the second generation, I don't care about you price for specs. It does make noise when compiling but hey at least I get the performance, the rest of the time with my terminal editor, dev server, and many tabs browser ? Not especially noisy and it is never slow.

It's all I wanted and I got it. Plus I can dream of replacing the motherboard in 10 years with a super low consumption cpu, if all my money isn't going to buying food made very expensive by climate change that is.