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by rsuelzer 1093 days ago
I have the 2019. I needed AWD, as I have 10 miles of muddy roads to get to my house. I now regret not buying a Subaru for the 10k above MSRP or whatever the ransom was back then. The milage on the Outlander PHEV is comically terrible once the battery is empty. Yet somehow, it's a "clean air vehicle" (LOL) It's also crazy to me that "SPORT" utility vehicles don't have a trailer hitch by default. What are people using these things for? Oh yeah, automakers have convinced people living in cities that they need an oversized disgusting SUV to be safe, increase their odds of running over children, pets, and having catastrophic rollovers. The automakers like it because SUV's have much almost no safety standards compared to cars and no gas milage CAFE requirements!

I often hate myself for owning an SUV, but it was most practical vehicle for the rural area I'm in that was available at the time for a reasonable price.

Biggest annoyances with the Outlander 1) 12v system dies even when you have enough energy on board to power a house for a day. 2) It's a cargo ship with no cargo room. The front seats don't go all the way down, so I can't fit anything in this environmental disaster that I couldn't fit in a Ford Fiesta Hatchback. The back seats have things like cup holders and weird design features blocking the ability to use it to move stuff. 3) Why did they reinvent how you shift into gear? I need to explain to people who use my car how to put it into drive and park. 4) No spare tire! Now, I drive around with a spare floating around in the back that I purchased since not having a spare is a disaster waiting to happen in a rural area.

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Yeah, I will drive this into the ground and never buy an SUV again.

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What kind of mileage do you get? I have around 4,000 miles on the car now and I have 39 MPG average. I just took a longer trip (1,600 miles total) and averaged 27.5 mpg for the trip. A good deal of my other driving is shorter regional trips which are too far for a bike to be practical. I average around 60 MPG, having the 42 miles of range on the battery helps.

Agree with you on the cargo space. My previous car is an Outback and has just as much usable space as this car, which is a larger vehicle. The main reason I got this car is I wanted a plug-in hybrid and it was the one that met my requirements and was available.

A station wagon is a great form factor for me. Plenty of room inside the vehicle and lower to the ground so it's easy to put stuff on the roof rack. Unfortunate that no one is really making them.

Crappy lead acid 12V batteries are pretty common, Tesla did smart by replacing them with lithium ion.