[vorpalhex]

> Abstinence only education, whether for sex or drug consumption doesn't work.

This line gets repeated a lot, with the implied assumption that since X doesn't work the solution must be to invert X.

That's incorrect.

You know how you dramatically reduce teen pregnancy? You increase their socio-economic status.

The fix to drug use is not to teach kids the best way to shoot heroin or how to drug test for fentanyl, anymore than the fix for teen pregnancy is practicing putting condoms on bananas.

[mrguyorama]

Except "putting condoms on bananas", which is a hilariously bad faith description of sex ed, has demonstrably reduced teen pregnancy.

[vorpalhex]

That was my non-abstinence sex ed experience as a University freshman. I mean there was a certain amount of reading and the usual dumb multiple choice quizzes too, but it was not a medical course.

(We actually had a wooden practice phallus, but the banana line was funnier.)

[mrguyorama]

Your only sex ed was in University? That's unusual. We didn't have sex ed in university, we had "health class" all throughout middle and part of high school. It covered lots more than birth control methods too, like what signs there are you are in an emotionally abusive relationship.

[cmh89]

>That's incorrect.

You're welcome to find some sources that support your assertion. All the research on the matter disagrees with you though.