[paganel]

First they came for the Gilets Jaunes...

I know that that particular reply of mine doesn't help your particular case, but it was sickening to see how much of the supposed French people's liberties and citizens rights were broken back then and how most of the French intelligentsia was just cheering the government from the side.

[pif]

> First they came for the Gilets Jaunes...

Actually, they came too late for the Gilets Jaunes!

> it was sickening to see how much of the supposed French people's liberties and citizens rights were broken back then

I agree with you, a bunch of idiots holding a whole country hostage was not at all what one would expect in a sane democracy.

[James_bread]

Pif, your messages here align mostly with authoritarianism and fascism. You don't seem to care about people their freedom, their rights or real democracy. It's not a minority that holds the country hostage it's a minority who have the balls to standup against a small elite who have all power. Having to pick out of two evils has nothing to do with democracy.

[pif]

> our messages here align mostly with authoritarianism and fascism

If you want to call "authoritarianism" the basic rule of law (as in: do not block traffic, do not prevent shops from opening, do not prevent public offices from offering their services...) you are welcome.

By the way, a pet peeve of mine, having always voted for the centre-left, I never appreciated how authoritarianism is generally considered an expression of the extreme right, while history shows that dictatorship was the evil of both extremes.

> You don't seem to care about people their freedom

I do care about the freedom of all people, and that is why I detest when protesters use violence (which is wrong) in order to gather attention for their point (which may be right).

> minority who have the balls to standup against a small elite who have all power.

I respect your opinion, even if I don't share it.

[themaninthedark]

So, how does that mesh with the BLM protests that took place across the US?

Here we have "fiery but peaceful protests" but in France it is a fundamental breakdown of the rule of law?

[paganel]

That's the spirit of "he has promised us that he'll let us enjoy our assignats in peace and bring order to the country by ending the revolution", i.e. the spirit that helped Napoleon got hold of power. I think trying to end the revolution is still an ongoing thing in today's France, for better or for worse.

[pif]

> trying to end the revolution is still an ongoing thing in

I don't agree. France is as wonderful as it is because revolution was successfully completed long ago.