[anyoneamous]

As a non-developer who has only gone as far as "hello world" in Go, I'm baffled by the idea that the log/slog thing is new - that seems like an absolutely basic language feature. TBH I'd say the same about min/max, but could forgive those being absent since Go isn't known for being numerically-focused...

[ilyt]

> As a non-developer who has only gone as far as "hello world" in Go, I'm baffled by the idea that the log/slog thing is new - that seems like an absolutely basic language feature.

Then you'd be even more surprised when you learn that the vast majority of languages do not have standard logging library in core.

Most have one or few common libraries that community developed instead, but they are not in stdlib, and if stdlib has one it's usually very simple one (Go had standard logger interface that was too simple for example)

[anyoneamous]

I have evidently been spoiled by Python and it's abundance of batteries.

[justinsaccount]

Python does not include a structure d logging package as part of the stdlib as far as I know. What package are you thinking does what slog does?

[anyoneamous]

Just the standard "logging" - might not meet the definition of "structured logging", but at a glance it seems about as featureful as what is being added to Go right now.

[morelisp]

Python has no equivalent of logger.With or other k/v pairs, which is what makes it structured logging and why it's interesting at all. Go has had unstructured logging since its early days.

[anyoneamous]

I don't really follow what the benefit of the k/v thing is relative to just passing in a suitable string. I'd just assumed that the automation of "debug", "info" etc was what made it structured.

[arp242]

There's been a "log" package since forever, but slog adds structured logging with fields and some other things. I don't think many standard libraries have that built in?

[tick_tock_tick]

> that seems like an absolutely basic language feature

Most languages have no logging "system" built in at all. Honestly it's really quite rare.

[sa46]

Most languages include unstructured logging libraries in the standard library, including Go. Structured logging is usually provided by third party libraries.

[metaltyphoon]

The only other one I know would be C# with Microsoft.Extensions.Logging. Its so ubiquitous that 3rd party libraries work with its abstractions. Slog is a really good thing for Go