[zo1]

Stats don't say everything, and doesn't negate my opinion of the place where I currently live. Most of those murder stats are unfortunately from poor areas and affecting the poor populace. Us in the middle and upper class don't get affected as much by the crime, we live in protective cages, gated communities, have private healthcare, don't use public transport and have 24/7 security.

I'm not saying SA doesn't have crime, I'm saying it's easy to avoid and I prefer it this way vs what is present in supposedly western countries.

[nradov]

I live in the USA with no protective cages, gates, or private security. The murder rate in my city is literally zero most years.

[dash2]

You're stuck in a "protective cage", you can't get on a bus, and you think that doesn't affect your life?

There is nowhere in London, or in the UK, that I cannot walk. I'm not sure how you are imagining Western societies.