[sfg]

I talk about political matters for ideas, education, and stimulation (mine and the other person's), rather than to beat them into taking on my position. I'd certainly walk away from a conversation long before I'm worn down into taking on their views.

I think this interchange of thought and sharing of ideas is the true essence of discourse. That other thing is more of a verbal tribal battle. I can see issues with bots swinging the political landscape in ways that cause harm, but I think there is good reason to think discourse might flourish. Fundamentally, if the competitive arguers are discouraged, whilst the curious and conversational are encouraged, or at least not hurt, then discourse itself wins.

[haxiomic]

I don't think political swings are likely to happen from improving curious thoughtful discourse, these things are dwarfed by blunt evocative approaches that reach broad segments of voting society

We might find discourse flourishes corners of discussion on the internet but the wider internet is much more at risk to these approaches