[zerohp]

> And once "computer says no" you'll have a hell of a time trying to fight it.

Cars have been equipped with event data recorders that capture information moments before the crash for at least 20 years. It is part of the air bag controller. Insurance companies have equipment to read that data and use it against customers all the time.

You don't need a Tesla or other black box insurance to get cheated.

[gleenn]

Having a little accelerometer data that is probably a mild hassle to extract is far different than an always-on, internet-enabled, sensor-filled computer that literally has a camera pointing at your face.