[codemonkeysh]

I lived in San Fran back in 2012 for 6 months. I personally didn't feel unsafe; I'm a big guy and have a physical presence so I understand why others may feel unsafe.

So why did I leave?

There were a few events that really upset me. 1) I almost stepped on a shit snake some human left outside my building. 2) A homeless person stopped in front of a mother and child to urinate. 3) The weather sucked; cold and hot.

I went there for the tech scene, but it was just too dirty for me to want to live there.

[casion]

No matter your size, all of those things violate safety. It's not always about being attacked, but general welfare being violated.

[codemonkeysh]

The only welfare being violated was the bottom of my shoes.

[prottog]

Surely the "general welfare" is still being violated by the shit on the street and homeless people urinating in public, whether or not the shit or the piss actually got on your person.