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by satrday 1094 days ago
Having used both, NACS is more compact, so both the port on the car and the end of the cable are significantly smaller than CCS. The cable itself is also lighter and more "usable" than CCS. At least at the newest V3 superchargers, the NACS cable is so much more flexible and easier to manage.

Munro Live took both connectors apart and did an overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmjofPpThWU
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vel0city 1094 days ago
> the NACS cable is so much more flexible and easier to manage.

Nothing stops CCS from using smaller cables. Tesla tends to have cables which aren't rated for as long of lives with the plans on replacing them more often. Most CCS dispenser manufacturers chose beefier cables which were supposedly rated for longer lives, but environmental factors and people (ab)using the cables seems to lead to those cables not having anywhere near their rated lives.

I've seen some 50kW CCS chargers with downright flimsy cables, much smaller and thinner than most Tesla cables.

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dreamcompiler 1093 days ago
Tesla has thin cables at some superchargers. These are liquid cooled so they can get away with smaller wires. No idea if CCS1 chargers are using liquid cooling.
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vel0city 1093 days ago
Electrify America cables are ones where people routinely criticize for being overly bulky and hard to deal with. They're liquid cooled as well.

CCS1 chargers can (and often do) use liquid cooling. They can also support not liquid cooling the cables as well.

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wlesieutre 1094 days ago
v4 are the new Superchargers, but they're mostly being installed in Europe where everything has been CCS for ages and Tesla needs the longer cable to support cars with ports in random corners.

Unless all these other manufacturers move their charging ports around in addition to switching connectors, the short cables on all the v3 Supercharger infrastructure is going to be an issue here for a while. If your port is in the wrong spot there's no way to reach without blocking two spaces.

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sunflowerfly 1094 days ago
Note that the CCS in Europe is different than the CCS in the US. We were already on our own unique standard.
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