[zgluck]

That is not the point here. Did you any point believe that you were experiencing a mass market user experience at those times?

[AnimalMuppet]

I was experiencing something declarative at that point.

What's your actual position? Is "declarative" the relevant piece, or is it "mass market user experience"?

[zgluck]

My point here is that what Norman Nielsen deals with is "mass market user experience". This has been very clear for a very long time.