[clouddrover]

> Revising the cable and plug IS the complicated bit, actually,

It is not. CCS has had one revision already. You also seem to be misunderstanding that all that's going to happen is Tesla's plug will be put on CCS chargers, just as Tesla chargers have CCS type 2 combo plugs on them.

Tesla's chargers talk CCS. They are CCS chargers. How do you think they work in Europe? How do you think they're going to charge all cars in North America?

> CCS2 hardware is 350kW capable.

Sure, kid. That's why those 400 kW CCS chargers exist.

> Let’s not pretend it would be trivial to upgrade CCS2 to megawatt capability, with so much legacy deployment to upgrade.

Charger cables get replaced all the time.

[cbeach]

> That’s why those 400kW CCS chargers exist

If you think CCS chargers exist that can deliver 400kW to a single connector for a passenger EV (as opposed to 400kW shared across two connectors, or specialist charging hardware for semi-trucks) then by all means, edit the opening paragraph of the CCS Wikipedia page (“350kW” -> “400kW”) and let’s see how your revision goes down with the experts that frequent that page:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Charging_System

[clouddrover]

You're not making any practical sense. Why would I edit Wikipedia to say 400 kW when 700 kW CCS chargers exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm5shAEITA0

You've been fooled by Tesla's advertising. It's better to apply some critical thinking to advertising rather than just credulously believing it.

[cbeach]

Even better. Edit that page to say that the max power of CCS is now 700kW.

Let’s see if that stands up to scrutiny from other editors.

Let me know when you’ve done it.

[clouddrover]

So.. instead of the practical realities in the field, your final "proof" is what users of Wikipedia think? Truly bizarre.

It's sad how effectively Tesla's advertising has warped your perspective.

[cbeach]

So despite your confident claims about CCS being rated to 700kW, you choose for Wikipedia to state it as 350kW.

I wonder why that is? Do you need me to explain how to edit Wikipedia? I’m happy to help.

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Interesting that you keep bringing up Tesla.

Is Tesla / Musk a sore point for you? Perhaps you were sold a non-Tesla EV (you mentioned the Renault Zoe) and the salesman made false claims about access to Tesla’s best-in-class charging network? I understand why that might leave you feeling bitter. The Zoe is cute, by the way, a nice simple starter EV for buzzing around town on a budget.

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I see from your response to this that you’re still unwilling to edit Wikipedia 350kW -> 700kW for some reason. You don’t seem to mind the article’s vague promise of “higher rates in the future” despite you claiming that 700kW exists in the here and now. How peculiar.

The offer of guidance on editing Wikipedia still stands.

[clouddrover]

> you choose for Wikipedia to state it as 350kW.

The precise sentence from Wikipedia is, "It can use Combo 1 (CCS1) or Combo 2 (CCS2) connectors to provide power at up to 350 kilowatts (kW) (max 500 amps),[1] although higher values are coming" which is true. Higher power levels are here. 700 kW CCS chargers are a practical reality.

Did you watch the video or not? I'm thinking not.

> Interesting that you keep bringing up Tesla.

How is it interesting? We are precisely talking about Tesla's plug versus the CCS type 2 Combo plug. You are falsely claiming that the Tesla plug can do something the CCS plug cannot. What else am I going to bring up?

I find it remarkable that when the practical realities are put right in front of your face you still deny them. That's some highly effective brainwashing. That's what Tesla has done to you.

[cbeach]

Wikipedia still states the max power of CCS is 350kW. Why haven't you updated it, if what you say is true?