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	by mordae 1095 days ago
	Is it stands, it would be rejected for inclusion in Debian and other distributions (unlike open source games) and I wouldn't be able to bring it to my software club and study it with kids, because that would be using it in a commercial setting. Don't get my hopes up by calling it open when you post it on HN. It's not that much to ask.

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littlestymaar 1095 days ago

> I wouldn't be able to bring it to my software club and study it with kids, because that would be using it in a commercial setting.

Would you mind elaborating on this? How is a software club a commercial setting?

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pgeorgi 1095 days ago

"Commercial activity" can be as benign as "There are membership fees", "There's a soda machine in the corner that takes coins", "I'm doing it to brush up my CV" (increasing future income potential), or "There are ads on the website".

As such, any of these might trigger the "only for ... non-commercial ... use" clause. So folks generally just don't sweat it.

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boredhedgehog 1095 days ago

The Sustainable Use License doesn't seem to contain a blanket ban on commercial use. Here's what it says on limitations:

"You may use or modify the software only for your own internal business purposes or for non-commercial or personal use. You may distribute the software or provide it to others only if you do so free of charge for non-commercial purposes. You may not alter, remove, or obscure any licensing, copyright, or other notices of the licensor in the software. Any use of the licensor’s trademarks is subject to applicable law."

Studying the software in a commercial setting seems to be permitted.

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anthk 1095 days ago

It's still non-free, period. True FOSS software doesn't impose restrictions on commercial sales.

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Narishma 1095 days ago

Why does Debian care that it can't be used in a commercial setting?

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jraph 1095 days ago

Because it comes with the freedom to used for any purpose in its core goals / social contract [1], including commercial purposes:

> No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor > > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.