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by Maxion 1097 days ago
Huh? All subreddits that have ran votes, the community has been in majority favor of closing.
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I voted on a few of those, so these were real, and the outcome was overwhelmingly voting for blackout.

I think the larger issue is now the blackout is still continuing the addicts are needing their fix.

I saw posts in threads here saying that some sub-reddits didn't have votes.

And the vote or not does not adress my point about forcing users who don't want to participate to have to.

If the majority of the users wanted to boycott, then if they don't go to Reddit.com, simple as that.

>And the vote or not does not adress my point about forcing users who don't want to participate to have to.

They're always free to go start their own subreddits.

The same is true for the mods. Mods don't own subreddits, the community does. If they want to close down communities that aren't theirs, why not just quit Reddit? They are free to stop moderating.
> Mods don't own subreddits, the community does.

Reddit's practices until now said the opposite.

And that's a pretty terrible thing. I guess it's biting them in the ass now.
Not what I've seen at all, which is why many subs are reopened with stickied posts saying it's what their communities wanted.
I think it is a weird subject for popular vote to begin with.

Every individual already had the option to post or not post, moderate or not moderate. The vote only impacted those who wanted to remain active.

Very likely non-representative due to sampling bias and brigading.
r/pics had 56,000 votes. That would be quite a lot of brigading... https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/14b2a6q/poll_decide_o...
Prove it.
That's not how it works. If you want to claim some poll as evidence of user sentiment, you have to prove that it is representative.
Do you claim all polls are brigaded until disproven? Or those you don't like?
No, just the ones that people are strongly motivated to brigade, and ones where I saw discussion of discord groups where links to such polls were posted to mobilize brigaders. But none of that should matter. If you claim your poll is representative, you need to demonstrate it. Don't make claims that outpace your evidence. It's not that hard.
I guess r/SaltLakeCity and r/NewOrleans don’t exist.
That is (1) not true and (2) meaningless given most of those polls were brigaded by a small set of vocal whiny users voting in subreddits they aren't even involved in (3) even given both if those, I doubt you can find a poll for a large subreddit that shows even 10% of users supporting a blackout.
So, can you show how most polls were brigaded?
r/freemagic users who were banned from r/magicTCG talked about voting in the r/magicTCG poll. Apparently, mods of r/tennis posted in a Discord asking people to come help and vote to support the blackout as well. A lot of polls were mentioned in r/ModCoord which biases strongly in favor of the blackout. There’s much more incentive to brigade on the blackout side since users who don’t care about the subs in question lose nothing by those subs going private.
Eh, I gave you the clear out under #3 where you could show that these blackouts were really the will of the people. You haven't done that, if your strongest argument is about "oh, prove there was brigading", I think we're at the point where, at best for you, any polls are basically just meaningless (if they were meaningful you could use them under point #3 to refute me).