[explorer83]

If anyone is thinking they are bigger than they are it's these mods. Some of my favourite hobbies have been absolutely tainted by people who become mods of a community who put their societal/political/sexual beliefs with equal weight with the actual topic of the sub reddit. Say anything that mildly offends the mods personal beliefs? Banned. Or at the very least, find yourself limited in the role you can play in the community. Unfortunately, these mods seem to have the most free time to hijack the shared common interest in the sub-reddit topic to push their own version of community standards. I'm just speaking to my limited experience of my own personal interests but that's all I can say about it.

[tarentel]

I've seen this argument a lot on here and I don't really get it. I go to specific hobby subreddits to talk about specific hobby subreddit things, not to see other people make irrelevant comments or something that might mildly offend someone else. As far as I am concerned mods are well in their rights to shut that kind of stuff down.

[skyyler]

This sort of sentiment usually comes from someone that can't help but argue about politics in an area for, say, houseplants. Sorry, but I don't want to discuss Grundrisse in a hobby subreddit. I don't want nazis yelling at me about jewish conspiracies in an analogue synth subreddit.

"Waaah I can't say edgy things everywhere I want" is such a weak complaint against community-led moderation.

[explorer83]

Ahh yes. The classic anyone who sees any issue with the current state of things must be in line with Nazi conspiracy theorists. Such depth.

[skyyler]

Did you notice that I criticised communists that inject politics into everything too? I suppose you do not know what Grundrisse is?

[explorer83]

What I meant by "in line with" is an association with an extreme political ideology. I understand the confusion. Again, partially my fault But the point was a person who has a complaint on the current status quo shouldn't associate them with someone trying to say or stand for something extreme.

[traverseda]

One moderator (who has since been removed) would regularly remove anything critical of gnome or systemd, and would hand out bans to anyone they considered to be "bullying" either of those groups. I think their standard for bullying were pretty low, it was more that they wouldn't tolerate any criticism at all, but your mileage may vary.

[matheusmoreira]

Stuff like that is the reason plenty of people browse anonymous imageboards instead.

[explorer83]

You have my comment backwards. Partially my own fault I'm sure. But what I'm referring to is the mods bringing their own beliefs into the community and making it part of the topic, not the other way around.

[tracerbulletx]

Stop pushing the narrative that the mods are the source of the protest. They're just acting on the behalf of the members of their subreddit who are upset at the direction of the company.

[justinator]

I'm sure the truth is a little more cloudy than that. Mods are the ones who can cut off a community (not plain users), no matter what the users think they should do. I bet most users don't give two thoughts either way. Mods in some of the communities I participate did the 48 hour thing, and now have the community set to read-only indefinitely. I don't remember there being voting for former - and certainly not the latter.

[explorer83]

Precisely. It is cloudier. I was making the point that in my limited experience, the mods haven't represented the community of the topic. They represent a subset of the community of the topic which the mods have allowed certain opinions to prosper and others to perish based on non-topic related issues. And what you said actually aligns with that. Mods may have crippled communities without ensuring there was a consensus of opinions on the matter first.

[rjbwork]

Agreed. I am one of the oldest active Reddit users and I 100% agree. I have voted in many subreddits' polls for this. I mod a handful of small subs myself and have done the same. My needs are not the same as some of those large subs, so I am not continuing the blackout, but I fully support those that are. I intend to keep using old.reddit.com and never installing their mobile app instead of my 3rd party client.

[justinator]

> I fully support those that are.

Fully supporting the blackout would mean continuing the blackout on your own subs, would it not? Just say you're "partially" supporting the blackout - like in ways that don't directly effect your direct, current use of the platform. I don't care either way, just be honest with yourself.

[rjbwork]

Hah. Fair enough. TBH I'm just kinda lazy and don't want to go and reconfigure all that crap again after doing it and then undoing it earlier this week. Those large subs have more resources at their disposable and a critical mass for disruption.

My couple thousand subscribers simply are not that effective in getting Reddit to listen, I feel like. Definitely if moderating those subs becomes actually burdensome in the future, I will reconsider.

[sampo]

> I am one of the oldest active Reddit users and I 100% agree.

I am older than you, and I don't agree.

[rjbwork]

Maybe. I started using in July 2005 and made an account around when comments were introduced.

[sampo]

Damn. I am older, but just by some days.

[stickfigure]

The CEO of Reddit (and even the management team as a whole) can be fairly treated as a monolithic block. They generally speak with one official voice.

There are thousands of reddit moderators, most of whom have never met each other. You cannot possibly generalize across all of them.

See also: Comments about "black people", "white people", "tech bros", or any other large group of humans.

[explorer83]

I didn't try to generalize. I even said at the end of the post it represented my limited experience.

[stickfigure]

I'm going to assume you genuinely aren't self-aware, so please don't be offended by this attempt to help.

You lead with this:

> If anyone is thinking they are bigger than they are it's these mods.

This is a textbook generalization, a "blanket statement". The next few sentences attempt to reinforce this generalization. A one-sentence disclaimer at the end doesn't change that.

If you want to talk about your experience with <some members of large group X> then do that. But please don't project that across <all members of large group X>.

[explorer83]

Way to say you didn't read my whole comment before posting without saying you didn't read my whole comment before posting.