[Twirrim]

> Well, I, for one, don't fucking care about third party apps (which make money mind you)

Those third party apps are central to how the entire content works, they're absolutely critical for the moderators that try valiantly to diver the tide of pure excrement of content that floods in to the various subreddits.

That content you want to be able to see would be buried and gone, or never put there in the first place if it wasn't for third party apps that are crucial to moderators doing their work. Reddit has consistently done an awful job on quality moderation tooling. They really don't seem to give a shit, and just do the absolute bare minimum. The only reason it has managed to survive in the state it is is because others have voluntarily picked up the slack and built the tooling Reddit hasn't bothered to build.

Just because you don't see it or use it doesn't mean it's not central to what you get to experience. Think bigger, beyond your direct experience and consider how that directly impacts you.

[arbitrage]

> Those third party apps are central to how the entire content works, they're absolutely critical for the moderators

This is simply not true. I moderate several subs. 3rd party mod tools are not critical. Mods who claim this is so are really misrepresenting the issue.

Power tools for mods are nice to have for some. I make use of automod extensively. The tools reddit provides are adequate to perform moderation tasks.

Also, since I guess it needs to be said, I'm not a shill for spez. I don't like the dude, but I'm not a sock puppet. This is all winding up looking like an epic toddler tantrum from a small proportion of the higher-power mod contingent.

[ilyt]

> This is simply not true. I moderate several subs.

How big subs ? Number of subs you moderate is entirely irrelevant to the topic

[lelanthran]

Is there any good reason that a single moderator should be allowed to moderate multiple subs?

I'd take that as an I dictator of a power hungry mod, not a mod passionate about the topic at hand.

[ilyt]

I can imagine few small subs where that would be fine but being mod on few of the bigger traffic ones would definitely be weird and suspicious

[lelanthran]

A few related subs, certainly. Someone moderating /r/projectcar is is probably a good mod for /r/mechanics.

But you can't algorithmically determine this. It's also my impression that a few of the biggest subs have all the same mods.

[djbusby]

The tools are critical for some small set of mods, notably r/blind. Apparently Reddit will allow those tools to continue.

[km3r]

Yet still a significant portion of comments come from third party app users. Reddit wants to control how I post my likely close to 1000 comments a year, I just won't comment then. The content doesn't come out of this air, it comes from a handful of power users that are far more likely to use third party apps.

[htrp]

Any sub that ever hits the front page will need 3rd party tools.

[lelanthran]

> Those third party apps are central to how the entire content works, they're absolutely critical for the moderators that try valiantly to diver the tide of pure excrement of content that floods in to the various subreddits.

With all respect, that's something we are about to find out.

I find it hard to believe that there are so many people who think that Reddit looked at the mountain of data they have on user and mod behaviour, and API usage, and decided to do the opposite of what that data indicated as a good option.

All the internet posters making the claims you have just made are working blind. They don't have a single iota of actual data to support their conclusions.

Either way, we're about to find out.