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by randomdata 1097 days ago
A comment’s value rarely outlasts more than 24 hours, if that. Why hoard data?
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That's crazy, most of the comments I read are months if not years old.
Exactly. And it's so sad when I find a thread that clearly had exactly the answer I was looking for to a question, with somebody replying "thanks so much that answers it perfectly!" only the answer itself was deleted. :(
A couple years ago I came across a deleted Reddit comment[1] and I wished that I could read it so badly I messaged the op and asked him what he said. He didn't remember, and I was hoping so badly it would've been restored after I read this news. Alas, it wasn't.

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/comments/eh80f...

comment source:

  I believe KitchenAid stand mixers [assembled in America](https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0qKp-0h9P18), and the parts (edit: excepting the motor) do not appear to be sourced from China.\n\nHave a look around your local Ikea; a lot of their stuff, especially kitchen tools, are from Europe, Taiwan, etc, and not China. They label the source of all their stuff, so you can avoid stuff from China.\n\nZojirushi is a Japanese brand that makes all manner of appliances. Good quality. Work well. Hold up over time. Top-quality engineering.\n\nBlendtec blenders are also assembled in America. Their website casually avoid mentioning where parts are sourced, but they're at least an American firm.\n\nJapan also makes some pretty good knives, if you're in the market for those.\n\nFinally, there is always eBay. And for some appliances, such as toasters, you may in fact be able to get a better product than is available on shelves now.
Where did you find that?
I took the comment id from the url and looked it up in the pushshift data dumps.
This is why I quite like that Reddit by default just orphans comments on account deletion. One comment is usually not much of a PII danger, it's correlating them that builds up a picture. So this lets people leave their comments for others while reducing dox risk (well, unless the attacker uses Pushshift, in which case this is all futile)
If I wrote something especially noteworthy, I'll likely remember in my mind forevermore. If memory loss does occur someday, oh well. Am I going to remember to care?

The rest served its purpose at the time, but isn't something I will ever want to look back on again. What do you find so interesting in your old work?

It's not my old work I want to read, it's that of others. Comments are a frequently valuable shared annotation system for discussion on a post. Frequently I will search reddit for answers to questions I have and find a useful result in a comment.

Other times I want to get a summary of a new topic so I will find an applicable subreddit and sort by top from the last year to get an idea of what is interesting for this community.

Wherein lies the value of seeing that others read your work?

As the saying goes, work is done for those who pay for it. When I, like you, write comments on sites like these I am the one paying for it. I derive entertainment value for the cost I am sinking, so I find it to be an acceptable trade, but beyond that small window the entertainment is over and the value of what was produced is gone. To keep it around beyond that is just hoarding data.

I can appreciate that one might find value in feeling like they are helping out a greater community by allowing others to read their work. I commend those who see that value. But even that seems fleeting. If your work disappeared without you noticing, the value derived from that would not be lost. It is not the perpetual existence of the data that provides that value.

Although, I think the greater question here is: What value is there in allowing a for-profit company like Reddit to get rich selling the work you paid for?

So, you'd delete your old comments because you would rather no one in the world get any kind of value from them since you are not getting any anymore?
I wanted to delete my old posts so that Reddit doesn't get any value out of them.

That's exactly why they put in dirty hacks to defend against this.

Reddit depends on all the old content because it's indexed by search engines. People add "Reddit" when they search and then they navigate to the site. Old content brings in visitors.

>you would rather no one in the world get any kind of value from them since you are not getting any anymore?

I'd rather not get harrased from old comments in arguments I long forgotten about. Because some redditors will stalk you that persistently. I just don't want to bother to begin with.

If that cost some useful advice, I apologize. Rotten apples and all that.

I would delete comments that are past their prime like I would discard expired food in my fridge, yes. What are you going to gain from keeping something that is now rotten?
I've had some interesting discussions replying to 10+ year old comments I find in Google ever since Reddit allowed subs to opt in to replies to older threads.
I have to disagree. Landing on a reddit thread after googling something is very common.
random reddit posts have saved my butt several times in "oh god oh god I broke the data lake" or similar situations.

Some rando post from 2 years ago, too. Deleting them after 24 hours just kinda takes away the value prop for reddit. If I want a real-ish-time convo with someone then i'll get on Discord; the value of reddit is the posts live on.

A couple years ago I came across a deleted Reddit comment[1] and I wished that I could read it so badly I messaged the op and asked him what he said. He didn't remember, and I was hoping so badly it would've been restored after I read this news. Alas, it wasn't.

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/comments/eh80f...

That’s not true at all. Most of the random helpful searches I have done dig up comments that are months or years old.

It’s basically like making a post asking a really obscure question and then just writing nvm figured it out.

At the same time, I want Reddit to fail