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by jakecopp 1095 days ago
That's a feature, not a bug.

Moderation in the fediverse (inc. Mastodon & Lemmy) means defederating from "problematic" instances, where problematic is defined in the rules of the server doing the federating server (which appears to be documented at https://beehaw.org/instances)

This means moderation happens at a community & instance level rather than global moderation.

Please correct me if I'm missing something - I'm quite new to Mastodon & the fediverse like I'm sure many are!
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viraptor 1095 days ago
That's correct. Defereration is a moderation tool. There are instances which explicitly cater to bad behaviour and they will be dropped by many others. It's fine. (Yes yes, it's not perfect and random problems do happen)

It's actually problematic when instances get too large to fail (like the two biggest mastodon ones), because when their mods cannot cope anymore, you can't realistically ban the whole insurance - too many users would be affected.

But that's still better than a single global namespace where you have to deal with single accounts every time.

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BasedAnon 1095 days ago
>It's actually problematic when instances get too large to fail (like the two biggest mastodon ones), because when their mods cannot cope anymore

Or like Twitter, and every other large social media network. So much straight up criminal stuff flies under the radar simply because it's impossible for a handful of people to police that many people.

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Vvector 1095 days ago
But we were told "You can access all content in the lemmyverse from any server/instance" (1). If lemmyworld is a "problematic" instance, why is it one of the recommended sites to join? Seems like the messaging is confusing for new users.

(1) https://join-lemmy.org/instances

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shaky-carrousel 1095 days ago
Yeah, I created an account in lemmyworld simply because it was the first one in the list, and this move from beehaw pisses me infinitely. So now I do have to trash all the work I did subscribing because they threw a tantrum?

Well, they can have their server to themselves, I'm not going to subscribe to another server only to see it also blocked. They have proven to be the unreliable ones.

I hope the rest of the network retaliates and defederate beehaw. That's the right thing to do. If they want to be alone, grant their wishes and make them alone.

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Vvector 1095 days ago
Defederation wars is not the solution. There needs to be finer grained tools. But I don't have any good answers.
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