[NoMoreNicksLeft]

> So first we didn't need everyone working in the fields, after that we didn't need everyone working in the factories,

Do you own any fields? Do you own any factories? If you owned those, then you might be able to work in them and produce what you need to live, or at least something to trade for the things you need.

You seem to think there's a "we" here. There isn't. No one else is much in the mood to support you.

[mnl]

Yes, I own fields. No, the ROI isn't there so parishioners keep them for sentimental value mostly. It isn't worth it, it was but it's been decades that it's not.

Of course there's a "we". We depend on supply chains and working societies to even be writing anything here now. No one is willing to support anyone but we're a social species with division of roles, that's the "we".

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

> Of course there's a "we".

No, there isn't. You use the word, and deep in your lizard brain you hear yourself say "myself and all these other people who care about me and love me and are on my team".

There's no "we". No one wants to be part of that "we" with you, and those who lie and say they do want to be part of it with you are hoping they get more out of the deal than they give to be part of it. I'm probably the closest thing to being your friend that you have when I'm at least honest and tell you that's horseshit.

If people like yourself spent more time trying to solve the much smaller problem of "how do I make my way in this world" instead of "how do we make it so everyone gets what they want", then quite simply more of you would get what you want.

> but we're a social species with division of roles,

Your role's about to be eliminated. Might take 20 years, the timeline's hard to pin down. But the guys who get to keep their roles are perfecting autonomous war drones. Your odds don't look good.

Where's your "we" in that?

[CatWChainsaw]

You're right that we're not going to get fully automated luxury space post-work, communist or not, because the "entrepreneurs" ushering it in will not be able to shake the motive of "profit" out of their lizard brains and would rather kill everyone not in their social/economic class than see the death of the world order that puts them at the top. But it is amusing that you comment gleefully that someone else's job is about to be eliminated, but upthread are bitching about childishness and people not wanting to work. We're supposed to want to work in a world that is actively obsoleting jobs (and leaving nothing "better" in its wake, to boot)? A bunch of people going "fuck you, got mine" makes more people better off than cooperation? If post-scarcity somehow happened your lizard brain would implode.

[melagonster]

this is a apparently communism haha