[sideshowb]

Making carbon emission expensive you say? Lobbyists have historically stopped that one, so we're back to an issue of political will.

What's your market solution for that one? Making lobbying even more expensive? I guess that's the fixed point of this function

[markus92]

> Making carbon emission expensive you say? Lobbyists have historically stopped that one, so we're back to an issue of political will.

EU is doing it, with CBAM. Basically internally trading emissions and taxing carbon at the border.

[sideshowb]

I wonder whether this time round the price will be high enough to actually change anything.

[robertlagrant]

> Lobbyists have historically stopped that one

Lobbyists don't stop this. Government chooses to listen to lobbyists. I don't understand why people don't blame the government for government failings.

Giving them free money from taxes and expecting them to not be bribed is not too much to ask.

[sideshowb]

Sure, it's a government failing. Or looking wider, perhaps a system failing that the only governments who succeed in getting in are the ones that are cozy with lobbyists who either make big donations to their campaigns, or wield influence with the electorate in other ways.

I don't know how to fix that, but I imagine it's going to require political will from somewhere.

[trashtester]

> I don't understand why people don't blame the government for government failings.

In the end we get the politicians we deserve. If we're too lazy to find the uncorruptable ones, or even run ourselves if all are corrupt, we get corrupt politicians.

[HPsquared]

I suppose if lobbyists run things we need someone to lobby the lobbyists.