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by pyrale 1105 days ago
> There's also the camp that noticed that everything the pro-nuclear propagandists say about the supposed upsides is either paltering or an outright lie

At this point, both camps are blatantly lying. That's the very nature of a polarized discussion that has lasted for decades with very few new elements.

I guess you can't blame GP for being sour about discussions he's had on that topic. But at the same time, it's kind of odd he didn't notice people from his own side peddling blatant lies.
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credit_guy 1105 days ago
So the fact that India is building nuclear reactors that are cheaper than solar is a lie?

https://twitter.com/BrianGitt/status/1653386880627646464

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Schroedingersat 1105 days ago
Yes. The capacity factor is a blatant lie given that units 1 & 2 are about 60%, and the costs are an old estimate of overnight cost without escalation or inflation.

Comparing overnight costs to final all-in prices is one way nukebros love to lie.

You're also pretending operating costs don't exist.

You're also pretending that costs for a solar project in 2015-2019 are costs today. This is another blatant lie.

Longevity is another lie. The median and mean ages of the plants that actually get completed is around 30 years, not 60. The average for nuclear plants that are paid for is even lower because so many do not open at all.

Thankyou for demonstrating.

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credit_guy 1105 days ago
Ok, fine, I'm a big liar.

But, can you please do me a favor and tell people around here where you stand?

Do you believe that the technology underlying nuclear reactors is simply uncompetitive and you oppose it because of that? Or you would be very unhappy for nuclear technology to succeed no matter what?

And more importantly, are you happy that humans exist on this planet? Would you prefer for us to be fewer?

What do you think of someone who has 3 children? Is this moral? Or is it a crime?

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Schroedingersat 1105 days ago
> But at the same time, it's kind of odd he didn't notice people from his own side peddling blatant lies.

Bit odd not to notice all the lies he's telling even after they're pointed out, he doubles down on them, and then they're disproven.

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