[majormajor]

Yeah the attempting-to-model first approach is great too for trying to avoid walking into "we thought this would take three weeks but it's gonna take 6 month" situations because the initial requirements were not all the way thought through around edge cases and such, and looping stakeholders in to just how nasty it may or may not be early-on.

[steve_adams_86]

That dovetails really well into our other thread about putting an emphasis on listening and understanding rather than trying to lead conversations. Putting attention to properly understanding a problem is very empowering, and often leads to more decisive data points than discussions can.