[maxerickson]

If they continue to accept the rate that the insurance company reimburses at, it is not reasonable to describe them as charging some other rate. They know what the insurance is gonna pay when they provide you the service.

[xp84]

Don't forget that they first send bills for that absurd amount to anyone who's uninsured, or anyone unlucky enough to go to an out-of-network facility. If you don't contact them and find a solution, like signing up for retroactive Medicaid or negotiate somehow, they will 100% sell your debt to a collection agency and can basically ruin your life. This does happen every day to people. I don't think it should be okay for prices orders of magnitude above what they actually accept from insurers, to be used to bill uninsured patients.

[maxerickson]

They state that the counselor charges uninsured people $96.