[tiffanyh]

Hack?

I wonder if Shopify will ever give up on trying to fix Ruby and instead, do what FB did with PHP and just create their own derivative (Ruby) language that addresses their needs better.

[kayodelycaon]

Why? Shopify was able to work with the core team and make the whole language better.

Facebook has far more employees and wasn’t going to get PHP improved to their liking.

[tiffanyh]

The irony is that PHP has improved massively in perf vs the relative gains of Ruby.

https://onlinephp.io/benchmarks

https://serpapi.com/blog/benchmarking-ruby-3-1-yjit-ruby-2-7...

[vidarh]

Apart from measuring very different things, the PHP page compares PHP releases over something like 25 years vs. about 3 years of Ruby releases.

Look at PHP 7.2 onwards, which is a similar timeframe, and the improvements are fairly modest.