[freedomben]

> The thing with Rails is that it doesn't scale terrible well to "Twitter scale"

It's true that Twitter switch to JVM langs, but it's not true that Ruby doesn't scale (or couldn't have to Twitter's level if they'd kept it). Twitter was early days for Ruby and things have improved a lot, but the only scaling challenge with Ruby is the cost of app instances. I use Elixir/Phoenix now and run 1/4 of the app instances I used to and with much less memory required per instance. (in one app it's 1/10 the ruby instances!) It's traditionally opex cost that hurt Ruby scalability, not technical, and very few companies will ever see the level of success where the cost of servers gets prohibitively high (compared to dev dev cost).

[arp242]

Isn't "it's comparatively slow" what people usually mean with "doesn't scale"? You can scale anything with enough hardware, but as you mentioned at some point is just becomes very expensive.

[vidarh]

Twitters architecture at the time was a textbook example of how not to build a large scale many-to-many social network. Maybe switching would've been worth it for them anyway, but the big thing they needed was fixing architectural choices they never should've made to start with.

[byroot]

> Isn't "it's comparatively slow" what people usually mean with "doesn't scale"?

If that's the case, then they are misguided.

> You can scale anything with enough hardware

No, some architectures or implementations can give you diminishing returns or a hard cap. Not everything can scale horizontally ad infinitum.