[troglodynellc]

Most of the bickering about this or that programming language is no different than "should I buy the bosch or craftsman table saw".

Use whatever has the lowest TCO to you that lets you get the job done.

Perl is usually that tool for me, but yanno TIMTOWTDI. Basically every programming language is quite expressive and has adequate tooling to profile, test, cover, format and lint & run thru CI these days.

I have noticed pretty much everyone using X language still thinks the others don't have said features though. Good for a chuckle in dev chats.

[eYrKEC2]

> "should I buy the bosch or craftsman table saw"

Good question!

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/table-saws-recom...

I too care about my tools. Some feel good in the hands. Some get the job done better. Some I reject outright, despite their ability to get the job done. I care deeply about my tools.

[dunefox]

Bad example, really. Tools do matter.

[KronisLV]

> Bad example, really. Tools do matter.

Personally, I'm inclined to suggest that there are definitely "good enough" tools out there and you can get stuff done with those too, instead of spending a lot of money and time looking for the best out there, or getting attached to them. Kind of a utilitarian look, I guess.

As an example, I got a Chinese chainsaw (marketed as Lithuanian, but most likely just a white-label product) for cutting trees and prepping firewood, for about 100 EUR. It won't last me decades like a fancy Stihl saw, it will have more engine vibration and the fuel economy won't be great. Yet, none of that matters to me much, because it has the critical set of features that I need (it cuts wood, starts well, has decent throttle response and has a functional saw brake).

Whether the same applies to programming and how much is probably quite subjective. Personally I like something like IntelliJ IDEA or other JetBrains tools, but one get by with Eclipse or NetBeans or whatever. In my eyes, the same applies to programming languages - you most likely can write a decent codebase in Rust, Go, Java, .NET, Python, Node, Ruby, as well as languages like Perl and PHP.

Some might be more comfortable with one language over another for a variety of reasons and surely the average codebases will be a bit better/worse depending on the language, ecosystem and the community as a whole. But if it lets you pay bills and ship features, then I would be okay with someone picking PHP/Perl/whatever over one of the more favorable languages.