[Manjuuu]

> The NHS now has chronic shortage of nurses.

Why? Because it's not an attractive profession nowadays. Not for the few hundreds of deniers that were fired.

> You're rather proving my point. So many people are just not ready to have a rational conversation about these narratives. It's all just tribalism and dogma, and we will have to wait years for people like you to calm down to the point where you are able to have reasonably conversations on these topics again.

I haven't seen any rational or unique point in everything you have written, only spitting the usual covid deniers nonsense.

You know what my real fear is? The fear that people that have this kind of opinions regarding the pandemic will apply the same reasoning to the next one or to the next crisis. I have a different opinion of preppers now.

[realjhol]

So did you watch the montage?

If so, please admit that you were wrong when you made this comment:

> I'm hoping that in a decade or so, people will stop using "vaccines never prevented transmission" as an argument since it has been said at least a billion of times since the beginning, VACCINES PREVENTED SERIOUS ILLNESS.

My montage showed you (if you had watched it), many talking heads and officials at the time accusing the unvaccinated of increasing transmission.

The rest of your remarks about "covid deniers" are irrelevant to the point.

[Manjuuu]

Nope, I don't plan to watch anything, feel free to indulge in your beliefs.

[realjhol]

Yes - this is my point.

So many of you people have become so emotionally invested in the false narratives that you have believed, that you can't cope with any evidence that threatens your narrative even slightly.

At least we can talk about the "lab leak theory" now. This was the original point I made: it will take years for people to climb down these positions they have taken, but at least we are making small steps in the right direction.

[Manjuuu]

Man, you are talking about yourself, you literally started this subthread with the basic set of round of the mill covid contrarians BS that have 0 ground in reality and survive only thanks to the emotional attachment of people like you.

When asked for evidence you post the usual cherrypicked random stuff that aligns with what you believe (the only valid sources).

My recommendation is to just stop with this imaginary fight for the truth, when everyone is moving on and no one even cares anymore about these creative reinterpretations of reality. You lost any credibility with the first message of this chain, too much BS. Free yourself.

[realjhol]

I've presented plenty of sources and factual information: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36295718

You've presented none whatsoever.