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by oneshtein 1104 days ago
There is significant delay between lab leak in mid-September-mid-October 2019 and start of epidemic in December in Wuhan.

Can such contagious virus as SARS-CoV-2 cross the distance between lab in Wuhan and wet market in Wuhan in few days? Of course. In few months? No way.
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stormfather 1104 days ago
Not all the early cases could be traced back to the wet market, so there is no reason to suspect it started there if you don't already suspect a zoonotic spillover origin. And exponential curves ramp up slowly at first.
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neffy 1104 days ago
fwiw... there were posts floating around at the beginning of 2020 claiming that the epidemic was well established in Wuhan by December, and that cases were seen back to September, October.

It's unfortunate in so many way - admit a mistake was made, acknowledge the problem, and clean it up is so much more respectful of everybody's time and resources. Between Asian traditions of saving face, and US traditions of lawyers suing anything that moves, that approach never stood a chance of course.

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oneshtein 1103 days ago
Yes, there is correlation between World Military Games in Wuhan in October 2019 and Covid[0].

Also, Russian media informed about spike of pneumonia cases in November 2019[1].

[0]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7813667/

Note: This page below crashes my browser (Firefox at Fedora Linux) even when requested from Wayback archive. Beware!

[1]: http://web.archive.org/web/20191119113457/https://www.1tv.ru...

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baja_blast 1104 days ago
Yes, covid was in the US months before we bothered to check and count cases. There were rumors of a virus spreading months before it was officially acknowledged
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oneshtein 1103 days ago
Most likely, Covid19 was introduced into USA from World Military Games[0], or from Russia in October-November 2019.

If someone went to Novosibirsk to check situation after blast at BSL4 lab "Vector", then (IMHO!) he may contracted the virus and spreaded it in USA after return, which (IMHO!) explains why USA three letter agency covers that blast.

[0]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7813667/

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