[wnevets]

> Race and gender swapping every established popular character?

What exactly makes that "progressivism"? Also why don't you consider characters like X-23 a gender swapped Wolverine?

[the_doctah]

You don't think diversity is progressive? Also, yes of course I consider X-23 to be a gender swapped Wolverine.

[positron6000]

wait wait wait - you think that the characters not being all white men is "progressive"? that would mean that reality is progressive, right?

[wnevets]

Not only is "diversity" not new for Marvel but X-23 was created prior to the Disney purchase.

[the_doctah]

One data point does not make a trend. Post-Disney is when the trend started. Also a downward trend... of sales.

[wnevets]

> One data point does not make a trend.

How many have to exist before it can be considered "progressivism"/"diversity" then? Also can you provide those examples that occurred post-Disney? As a huge marvel fan it should be easy for you do. As someone who isn't a huge marvel fan I can think of several off the top of my head that occurred pre-Disney.

[the_doctah]

    Miles Morales (Spider-Man), original character: Peter Parker/Spider-Man, first appearance: 2011
    Jane Foster (Thor), original character: Thor Odinson, first appearance: 2014
    Riri Williams (Ironheart), original character: Tony Stark/Iron Man, first appearance: 2016
    Laura Kinney (X-23), original character: Logan/Wolverine, first appearance: 2004
    Sam Wilson (Captain America), original character: Steve Rogers/Captain America, first appearance: 2014
    Carol Danvers (Captain Marvel), original character: Mar-Vell/Captain Marvel, first appearance: 2012
    Monica Rambeau (Captain Marvel), original character: Mar-Vell/Captain Marvel, first appearance: 1982
    America Chavez (Miss America), original character: Joey Chapman/Miss America, first appearance: 2011
    Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel), original character: Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel, first appearance: 2013
    Kate Bishop (Hawkeye), original character: Clint Barton/Hawkeye, first appearance: 2005
    Gwen Stacy (Spider-Woman, aka Spider-Gwen), original character: Peter Parker/Spider-Man, first appearance: 2014

[wnevets]

> Miles Morales (Spider-Man), original character: Peter Parker/Spider-Man, first appearance: 2011

> Jane Foster (Thor), original character: Thor Odinson, first appearance: 2014

> Riri Williams (Ironheart), original character: Tony Stark/Iron Man, first appearance: 2016

> Laura Kinney (X-23), original character: Logan/Wolverine, first appearance: 2004

> Sam Wilson (Captain America), original character: Steve Rogers/Captain America, first appearance: 2014

> Carol Danvers (Captain Marvel), original character: Mar-Vell/Captain Marvel, first appearance: 2012

> Monica Rambeau (Captain Marvel), original character: Mar-Vell/Captain Marvel, first appearance: 1982

> America Chavez (Miss America), original character: Joey Chapman/Miss America, first appearance: 2011

> Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel), original character: Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel, first appearance: 2013

> Kate Bishop (Hawkeye), original character: Clint Barton/Hawkeye, first appearance: 2005

> Gwen Stacy (Spider-Woman, aka Spider-Gwen), original character: Peter Parker/Spider-Man, first appearance: 2014

Disney purchased Marvel in 2009(let's be honest 2010 is closer to the real year), only 7 of the 10 you listed occurred under Disney's watch. Big marvel fan indeed. Since you listed 7 times a race and/or a gender was swapped (I won't bother differentiating between swaps vs additions, e.g calling Ghost Spider a swap is a massive stretch.) under Disney as proof of "pushing progressive ideologies" I must assumed that is your threshold for something to be considered a trend. Here are 4 (plus the 3 your listed) times a race and/or a gender swap occurred under the previous Marvel owner's watch.

Michael Clarke Duncan as King Pin

Nick Fury (Ultimate Marvel Team-Up)

Lady Bullseye

Miss Sinister

Its almost as if Marvel did this sort of thing before Disney was involved, interesting.