[christoph]

Now, Windows 11 can be streamed on Mac computers built with M-series processors using a Cloud PC and the Windows 365 service.

So it's not really running on the hardware? Am I missing something silly? How does this fundamentally differ from me RD or VNC'ing into my Windows machine? Other than the long list of limitations they list - which I don't have when RD'ing to my Windows box?

[dekhn]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/options-for-usin...

I think they are saying that you can either stream a remote desktop, or run it in a virtualization tool and the license permits this. I don't think this means that Microsoft supports running Windows 11 natively on Mac M1 or M2. Which IMHO would be really nice (I prefer Windows as my OS but right now the Macs have a better hardware).

[AntonCTO]

What do you mean by better hardware exactly? ASUS' Zenbook Duo like https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/informatique/ordinateur_port... are pretty awesome. I have the previous model with i9-12900H and it is amazing. Or LG Gramm if weight matters. Or TUXEDO InfinityBook if you need more RAM/2xSSD.

[dekhn]

I can't access your link. I only know the Macs from what the rest of my family reports- insanely long battery life (days without recharging) and reasonable performance.

I can't imagine the battery life is very good in real world compared to the mac. I haven't tested nor have I looked at any benchmarks, so it's entirely possible I'm totally wrong. But I haven't heard people claiming performance similar to the mac.

[_aavaa_]

The problem you’ll face is that this battery life is in equal measure software and hardware, at least in the intel days.

Running windows in boot camp drastically cut battery life.

[oneTbrain23]

Plenty of 2nd hand Macs which can last into 3rd to 5th hands. On non Macs, it is hard to find any matching brands that with closest maybe Thinkpads like those X2XX and X4XX series. Just walk into any laptop repair shops and ask them for opinions. Mac easily ranked highest....I know because I have friends and families working in that business. Also many developers I know even those working in Microsoft use Mac. Mac in general do have best hardware.

[_aavaa_]

That’s all great, but irrelevant.

My point was that, and I say this from experience, if you get 8 hours of battery life on a MacBook running macOS you won’t get 8 hours running windows. You will get less, sometimes significantly less.

The person I originally replied to wanted to get a MacBook and put windows on it because the MacBook gets such great battery life. If they do put windows on it, the battery life won’t be so great anymore.

[gjsman-1000]

Could we re-title this because the impression is so different and I was quickly disappointed. Running on Parallels with Microsoft's approval was news months ago. And did anyone really think Macs wouldn't get approval for a cloud streaming service?

[kotaKat]

Yeah, this is a bit old from February -- nothing's changed here. VMware is still waiting for an official blessing, IIRC?

I'd rather use VMware Workstation/Fusion over Parallels (or UTM). Parallels gets grosser and ickier to me over the years while VMware seems to just remain one solid product.

[bangonkeyboard]

> And did anyone really think Macs wouldn't get approval for a cloud streaming service?

That depends on whose approval you mean. Apple already blocked the release of Microsoft's xCloud streaming app on iOS.

[lockhouse]

Which Microsoft quickly worked around by building a PWA that is trivial to install and works great.