[cassianoleal]

> The API has always existed, it's just a lot more expensive so if OpenAI really wanted to, they still could train their LLMs on Reddit comments just fine.

This here is the point that seems to be missing from most discussions.

OpenAPI has the cash to pay if they find it valuable.

Indie devs and moderators don't.

This change doesn't price out LLM training. It ensures only they will have access.

[wadd1e]

Yeah they're just taking away access from the exact set of people who'll benefit the userbase most(mods, indie devs etc.) and still reserving it for corporations with the money to pay. It's not wrong to expect enterprise prices for enterprise use but surely it shouldn't be unfeasible for individuals either. Spotify does it well, by restricting use of 3rd party clients to those with a paid subscription, I think people would be less worried if they did something similar.

Lots of ways to do what Reddit is doing and it almost feels like they've picked the worst one.

edit: feels eerily similar to Twitter, which has changed for the worse at this point.

[Levitz]

Reddit is more than 10 years old at this point. if anyone wanted to use it for LLM, couldn't they just download all of the content through the API while they can? Is 10 years of content not enough off of a site like Reddit?

[cassianoleal]

It's about cutting losses, at this point. Closing the dam gates doesn't mean you get the water back but it does mean new water doesn't get out.

That is, if it was about LLMs in the first place.